Rule 063 | Babies Take Way More Work Than Podcasts

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Still no plans to have kids of our own, but that doesn’t mean we can’t put our (amateur) parenting skills to good use. Jessie gives Gerard a pep talk while he processes his emotions, and we both resolve to be better about arguing with generous amounts of grace.

Join us in April for the next Great Love Getaway and we'd love to hang out with you online while you listen! 



  • Looking for the backstory on our parenting status? Ep 40 is where we dig in to the personal decision that we get asked about at LEAST twice a week.

  • Jessie recently opened up in a blog post about motherhood doubts from an intentional non-mom.

  • We’re excited about the short-term voluntary care organization that we volunteer with, and you should definitely check to see if there is a Safe Families chapter in your area!

  • Gerard comes clean about a WIDE range of emotions: sadness, relief, guilt, confusion… We’ve both changed our minds at least once throughout this process, but wholeheartedly agree that being generous is our priority.

  • We've learned that accepting help from our church family has been the only way to survive our first care-taking placement.

  • Gerard has a propensity for correcting Jessie when she gives inaccurate statements. There are “no buts” about the fact that arguing fairly requires a willingness to be wrong every once in awhile.

  • Saying "YES, AND" is a very useful marriage tip when communicating with your partner -- Whether you’re playing an actual improv game or decided where to go for dinner, we highly recommend agreeing with each other as a way to move the moment forward.



  1. What would it take to fit an extra kid into your household and life for a weekend? 

  2. Do you consider your partner to be more of a "yes and" person or a "no but" person?

  3. Does your family have an abundance of something (time, money, love, skills) that you could be radically generous with as a way to help someone else?