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Rule 061 | Getting Away Creates Space For Great Love

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We’re back for Season Five with lots of fun stuff to tell you! First -- tune in for a BIG announcement about our next Great Love Getaway in Puerto Vallarta, and then head to our vacation page to find out how to join us on the trip.

This week’s show is a story-filled recap of everything we learned on our anniversary trip to Morocco, Spain + Portugal in September. Adventure lovers will learn from our silly mistakes and seasoned travelers will laugh at all the ridiculous blunders... A must-listen for anyone who missed our insta-stories and is dying to hear (or willing to tolerate) the full rundown.  

Meanwhile -- we’re so excited to be back for another season and thank you so much to our generous Great Love Gang who is making this show possible! Find out how to get involved on the support page of our site and don’t forget to come hang out on twitter and instagram while you listen!

QUICK BITES:

  • Check out the highlights of our Summer Travel Series for the full itinerary and all of our BEST adventure tips.
  • If Tomorrow Gerard has a problem, then Tomorrow Jessie has a problem too. (Unfortunately, Today Gerard likes to save money without thinking of the consequences and that can sometimes cause a lot of problems for both of them.)
  • Jessie’s new favorite travel sleeping contraption is called a trtl pillow and the irony of that name is not lost on either one of us.
  • The Peppers packed for two whole weeks in just two tiny carry-ons! Proof that when you pair a stylist with an actuary, they can combine their packing powers for the good of suitcases everywhere.
  • Our trip to The Blue City of Chefchaouen got cancelled after a rough night on the overnight train.
  • Jessie’s refuses to rest her head on any questionable surfaces so she MacGuyvered herself a sleeping situation using some extra flat sheets and her trusty leather backpack.
  • Who doesn’t love sleeping on a mattress that reminds you of a greasy-spoon diner booth?! (Jessie doesn’t. In case that isn’t clear from the episode or the sarcasm of this question.)
  • If you ever find yourself on the coast of Central Portugal, please go try the buttered cheese and pesto from Azenhas do Mar.
  • If you ever find yourself eating too much buttered cheese at Azenhas do Mar, we recommend chasing it with a digestive enzyme and a couple of charcoal pills.
  • Despite any rumors you may have heard, Jessie has NOT switched over to Team Nap.
  • Gerard hates to leave a country with their local currency, so Jessie has gotten quite good at spending it out to the very last dirham.

 

Lessons From Our Anniversary Adventure: 

  1. Sometimes it’s ok to pay a little extra money to fly direct.

  2. We could all probably stand to do a lot less laundry in our lives

  3. Switzerland is really expensive.

  4. Never force your wife to ride on an overnight train in Morocco.

  5. It’s always ok to change your plans in the middle of the trip. Sometimes it’s worth it to go with the flow and change your plans at the last minute.

  6. Never ever (4x) travel without antibacterial wipes.

  7. The world isn’t going to end if you occasionally indulge in really good bread while on vacation.

  8. Check the weather before you go on special excursions, and be flexible on dates in order to make it work.

  9. The world would be a better place if everyone anchored their days around a siesta.

  10. Always change your money to the local currency if you want to get the best exchange rate.

  11. Getting outside your typical routine is a great way to experience special moments with your partner.

 

TRIGGER QUESTIONS: 

  1. Which is worse? Being stuck in a small airplane seat for a short amount of time OR having extra leg room in a big seat for a really long flight with lots of layovers?
  2. What is your all time favorite food indulgence that you reserve especially for travel or other special occasions.
  3. Where is the best spot in your neighborhood to take a blanket and a bottle of wine for date night?

Rule 060 | Don't Get Your Bikini Waxed The Day Before A Beach Trip

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The big finale of our special Summer Travel Series! Jessie + Gerard dive deep into their hardshell rollerbags to bring you the absolute best of their biggest travel tips. This episode is all about efficiency while adventuring, and please consider it a personal survival guide packed with resources just for you!

Thank you so much for tuning in this Summer... We would LOVE to have your support for our upcoming episodes and you can find out how to get involved with the show right over here

In the meantime, come hang out with us on twitter or instagram and see below for this week's handy show notes...

The Official "Marriage is Funny" Travel Manual

 


Jessie's 6 Points to Smart Packing:

  1. Capsule wardrobes are key. The Peppers discuss this discovery in Episode 59 and it proves the love that both partners have for form, function, and ultimate efficiency.

  2. Choose a color scheme. Let the season and the destination determine your selection, and don’t forget that complimentary colors make it much easier to mix and match all of your pieces.

  3. Multifunctional clothing is key. Jessie loves pieces like this drapey cardigan, and of course the Pepper Dress was literally MADE for feeling stylish on your next big trip.

  4. Choose a uniform. Figure out what you love to wear most at certain points of transit and then OWN IT instead of trying to get creative each time. Jessie says that a great pair of compression leggings makes for the perfect base layer, and Gerard swears by his fancy leather backpack to keep his personal belongings in tow.

  5. Keep your neutrals in check. Most accessories are either leather (or leather-like) and differing shades can cause a bit of clashing depending what else you bring to wear. Optimize the options by selecting one color (or two that are complimentary) and Jessie personally loves sticking with black and/or camel... with the occasional pop of red.

  6. Leave the heavy stuff behind. Shoes and handbags should be as light as possible (especially when empty), but it also makes sense to leave out bulky bras, hats, and other cumbersome pieces that you can live without.

 

  • Grab Gerard’s style faves here:  red chinos, barracuda jacket, and a suede bomber.

  • Jessie’s favorite boutique is Moss Designer Consignment in Austin, Texas, and here is what she wore on the day she bought the world's heaviest bag.

  • Gerard explains that planning ahead in the food department is key to keeping Jessie healthy when they’re away from home. Things like grapefruit/oranges, sugar snap peas, protein bars and mixed nuts will keep you full and happy.

  • The Peppers reminisce about the time when Jessie almost got detained at customs because of a lesser-known Jamaican export.

  • Jessie uses this ginger tea to keep away the tummy problems and Gerard prefers the stronger method of immodium ad.

  • Listen in for the secret to getting a mini-fridge delivered to your hotel room so that you can hit up a local grocery store or keep your fancy leftovers cold.

  • Gerard can’t live without these fancy licorice bites. Or Mountain Dew Code Red. Or Smuckers Uncrustables.

  • Jessie realizes that Gerard accommodates her food needs so that he can LATER gripe about the make-up and skincare obsession that we’ve talked about on past episodes.


TOILETRY TIPS:


PACKET PRODUCTS YOU CAN’T PASS UP:

Nail polish remover pads
Murad Resurfacing Peel
Starbucks "Via" instant coffee
Leaner Creamer
Collagen powder
Hand + Face Wipes
Acure Coconut + Argan Oil wipes
Whiskey
Mac + Cheese
 

  • We’ve talked about travel rewards points on the show before but Gerard uses this opportunity to dive even deeper into his favorite topic. No word yet on whether he can redeem the frozen yogurt frequent-shopper cards that Jessie has collected from across the country.

  • The Peppers prefer Southwest Airlines when it comes to a credit card with great earning options. The Chase credit card has extremely versatile points that can be redeemed for almost anything, and we use our American Express to get 6% cash back on our purchases. JetBlue offers family accounts in case you'd like to accrue points as a crew, but regardless of where you start: please SPEND RESPONSIBLY and don’t email us with complaints about your debt bill. (But DO message us here with any questions/additional advice.)

  • The Points Guy is Gerard’s go-to resource for learning, but the best place to start is with a simple sign up. We love SPG, Marriott + Kimpton for hotel stays, and most of these have transferrable or gifting options.

  • Download your binge-able content from Netflix or Amazon Prime instead of staring at the in-flight magazine for the umpteenth time.

  • Get a kindle or e-reader and then download the Overdrive app for FREE e-books (as long as you have a valid library card)! Using your prime membership will also give access to tons of free books + magazines that can come straight to your device!

  • Figuring out your international data plan ahead of time is the right idea, but if you want to conserve data while you’re abroad: be sure to download the Google Translate app before you go! Duolingo is also a fun way to learn the basics in many languages. (Added Bonus: Their app doubles as an iPhone game and we talk about this more in depth on Episode 18.)

  • Sleeping on airplanes suck no matter what, but Jessie is going to test out the Trtl Pillow to see if it makes a difference in getting her beauty sleep while on-the-go. It's part scarf / part neckbrace and will hopefully lull Jessie into a reasonable about of rest.

  • Magnesium supplements act as natural relaxants for tired/tense muscles and you can use the powdered or pill form depending on whatever is most convenient. Gerard swears by melatonin for this same purpose, but it makes some people groggy so you may need to test it out first. 

  • And finally: Some say that you can speed up the jet-lag recovery process by grounding yourself in the grass with bare feet. Gerard plans to try it on our trip to Europe/Africa this fall, and Jessie is happy to have some validation of her inner hippie-girl. 
     

Three Things We’ve Learned From Our Biggest Travel Mistakes:

  1. Always Pack Underwear In Your Carry-on Bag

  2. Never Leave Home Without Anti-Nausea Medication

  3. Don’t Get Your Bikini Waxed On The Day Before A Beach Trip

 

TRIGGER QUESTIONS:

  1. Do you have a typical travel uniform that you rely on while flying or driving long distances?
     
  2. What is your road trip junk food of choice?
     
  3. If you could have tiny, individually wrapped packets of any product, what would it be?


We will miss you guys so much while we're on our next break! ❤️ Come hang out with us online by following along with our insta-stories, and join the private FB group to connect with the rest of our Great Love Gang!

Rule 033 | Never Forget That You're On The Same Team

The Peppers get real about their vows and open up about the challenge of living with chronic pain. Jessie woos Gerard with some baked salmon and a basketball game, but when the going gets tough he throws her under the team bus.

If you happen to have a friend who experiences or is married to someone who has chronic health issues, would you please consider sharing this episode with them?

We're happy to pour out our hearts as a way to encourage others, and we would love your help in making sure that this show reaches exactly the right ears. 
 

QUICK BITES:

  • A General Note: Our marriage isn’t perfect, but our commitment is real. Hear the full run-down in the first few minutes of this week’s show.
     
  • Jessie didn’t get invited to fill our a March Madness bracket this year, and the KU Jayhawks will probably win because of it.
     
  • Becky Murphy Simpson should win an ESPY for her clever YAY SPORTS t-shirt.
     
  • The Sweet Sixteen tournament has nothing to do with the MTV show of the  same name. (Most wives would be way more excited about watching big games if there were fireworks and fancy dresses involved.)
     
  • The Peppers very first Valentine’s Day together set a precedent for our sports watching habits, and now you’ll hear why Gerard has been trying to make up for it ever since.
     
  • Jessie pulls a "Barney Stinson" by wooing Gerard with a home-cooked meal and a half-time make-out session.
     
  • His and hers henleys… Are these still a thing? We should make these a thing.
     
  • The Jayhawks mascot is NOT the same thing as Foghorn Leghorn from Looney Tunes. The Peppers send many apologies to all of our fellow Rock Chalk fans.
     
  • Jessie tries to explain that there is a distinct difference between “not loving a sport” and “hating a sport.”Gerard throws Jessie under the bus when it comes to whether or not she really loves the teams that have his heart.
     
  • Twitter makes it a lot easier to keep up with the commentary, but nothing beats plopping down in a recliner to enjoy your favorite teams. Bonus points if you bust out the killer bean dip.
     
  • Do they still make TVs with picture in picture? We will check into this and report back. (Thank goodness for the ability to watch sports on our special “appy-things.”)
     
  • Listening to Science Mike on The Liturgists Podcast gives some helpful perspective on processing thoughts and emotions.
     
  • Jessie dives right in and describes what she calls The Six Layers of Chronic Pain. Her health challenges have been a part of The Peppers relationship for longer than they’ve even been married, and they're still getting used to having it as their fairly unfortunate third-wheel.
     
  • If you haven't met Debbie Downer from Saturday Night Live, you're in for a real "treat" and you can thank us later.
     
  • The book Daring Greatly by Brene Brown gives us helpful language around identifying and dealing with our emotions of shame.
     
  • Jessie learns that noticing patterns within her interactions with Gerard can teach her a lot about how to heal the mishaps. (No matter how annoying they may be.)
     
  • We assure you that Jessie has not actually ever received medical treatment from a man standing on a corner, but we cannot make any promises about the future at this point.

     

TRIGGER QUESTIONS:

  1. Does your spouse have a special interest that you could blow them away by getting excited about?
     
  2. Have you ever pretended to be jazzed about a sporting event in order to impress a date?
     
  3. What brings you the most comfort when you're feeling sick or in physical pain?

Don't forget to leave us a review on iTunes, sign up for our mailing list and tweet to us at @meetthepeppers if you have something to share while you listen!

Rule 028 | Magazine Clippings Belong In The Bathroom

In this episode, The Peppers discuss the merits of being totally fresh faced or having two-week scruff. Jessie reveals her complex system for magazine organization, and they both try to decide if they were conned by the friendliest scam artist ever.

Don't forget to leave us a review on iTunes, sign up for our mailing list and send us a tweet if you have something to share while you listen!

 

QUICK BITES:

  • Good news for our parents…Finally: a clean episode!
     
  • We love hearing about your love and lives over on the private FB group. Share photos, questions, ideas, jokes and have fun getting to know the other couples in our growing fam!
     
  • Gerard needs to start brushing up on his Spanish, because we’re going to Mexico! He might want to start by re-listening to our conversation in Episode 18.
     
  • Travel-fights are NOT happening before the big trip. (We uncover why they happen back in Episode 8.)
     
  • Hair-removal woes are not just for women. Gerard's real question is: To beard, or not to beard?
     
  • Jessie comes from a long line of bad-ass moustaches, and Gerard realizes he may never live up to the hype.
     
  • Back in Episode 16 we talk about why "Lipstick Is The Quickest Way To Keep Away The Kisses"… (This week we learn that a few week’s scruff does the exact same thing.)
     
  • Gerard’s passport photo makes him look like a terrorist.
     
  • Jessie needs a magazine intervention. Do these exist? How do we sign her up?
     
  • Bon Appetit makes things like brussels sprouts and ice cubes feel way more fun.
     
  • The Pepper's Sunday morning routine involves fresh coffee, Meet The Press and the latest issue of Bloomberg Businessweek.
     
  • Sadie’s a superstar! Check out her first HGTV Magazine appearance right here.
     
  • Casa de Pepper is getting a NO SOLICITING sign. Do they make one that says, “Except for Girl Scout Cookies.” in tiny print at the bottom?  
     

TRIGGER QUESTIONS:

  1. Do you have strong preferences around your partner’s physical appearance? Does it have anything to do with how they looked when you met?
     
  2. What’s your favorite bathroom reading material?
     
  3. Have you ever bought anything from a door to door salesperson?

Don't forget to leave us a review on iTunes, sign up for our mailing list and send us a tweet if you have something to share while you listen!

Rule 013 | Airplanes Are Not The Place To Point Out Gray Hairs

Gerard freaks out about his new pair of glasses, and finds deeper meaning in the panic behind a couple of gray hairs. Jessie remembers that forgiveness is a gift everyone deserves, but wishes that hurt feelings were easier to brush under the rug.

QUICK BITES:

  • Gerard gets glasses, promptly panics and considers plucking his gray hairs. Jessie swoons, even still.

  • We all get older, but it’s time to dive into why “losing our youth” seems to shake G to the core.

  • Spoiler alert: Tears ahead. It’s not unusual for us to cry on planes, but this is nothing like the travel challenges we talked about earlier this Summer.

  • Jessie is ignoring her wrinkles by throwing on a kimono and “pretending” to be a crazy plant lady. (Might only be a few leaves short.)

  • The topic of mortality makes a cameo, but Gerard hangs on to his youth by claiming to be a kid at heart.

  • To Mr. or NOT to Mr?

  • One foolproof way to make you feel less old: Always make sure you’re the youngest friend.

  • Jessie justifies her indulgent self-care habits by claiming preventative measures.

  • Gray eye-brows got you down? Please pass the tweezers.

  • You know that adorable older couple that walks down the street holding hands? We secretly want to be them. (As long as he has good hygiene and she’s wearing cute shoes.)

  • It hurts when forgiveness from friends is hard to come by.

  • Jessie disappointed a girlfriend recently (#oops), and struggles through the experience of having her apology refused.

  • Forgiveness has the power to make a profound impact in any relationship. We try to remember that it is like a precious gift we are called to share generously with others.

  • Gerard lays down some convictions and Jessie realizes she needs to face the facts.

  • Saying “OK” vs. “I forgive you” when someone apologizes is NOT the same thing.

  • Two-part apologies were mandatory for Jessie growing up in the Artigue household, and the heartfelt process has carried over into her now adult life.

 

TRIGGER QUESTIONS:

  • What do you love most about getting older? (Bonus points if your answer involves wearing black socks with sandals.)

  • Do you have someone that you go to when you need to talk through a sticky situation with friends? How do you keep from crossing the line from healthy venting to gossipy territory?

  • Have you ever had to forgive someone for a hurt that never got acknowledged?

 

Rule 007 | Putting On A Bikini Is the Best Way to Cheer Up A Crying Husband

The Peppers are pro-bikini, but there are plenty of folks out there who might disagree. Jessie + Gerard open up about how body image affects their marriage, and why the idea of modesty means something different to so many people. Gerard is reminded that we are blessed to be a blessing, and realizes that being a bi-vocational pastor is more ingrained in his life than he originally thought.

QUICK NOTES:

  • We survived Gerard’s family reunion at the lake, and there were no less than 19 references to thinly sliced deli meat throughout the entire weekend.
  • Huge thanks to everyone who has already shared their feedback for the show! We love hearing your thoughts, so keep 'em coming and feel free to leave us a review on iTunes in order to help us reach more wonderful humans.
  • Jessie has been popping up on a few other podcasts around the web this month: Listen to her chat about life as a creative entrepreneur on Dave Conrey’s Fresh Rag + making money online on The Lively Show.
  • The burden of how to wear a cute bathing suit without sinning. (Struggle’s real, y’all.)
  • Does showing too much skin in public take away from the mystery of intimate moments? Depends on the duo, apparently.
  • Modest musings, “mixed bathing” + making waves with an old rope.
  • Self-doubt is something that swims throughout both of our brains, but we hadn't talked about it until this episode.
  • Gerard almost gets punched for having a high metabolism.
  • Jessie shares her commitment to the mantra,“I am His,” and the two talk about what it means to embrace such a generous gift.
  • Do us a favor? Tell your partner how attractive they are to you. Right now.
  • Self-tanner is Jessie’s #1 tip for rocking a bathing suit with confidence.
  • Gerard’s lack of movement within his call to ministry is making him feel a bit bummed out. 
  • Metaphors about wells + pitchers + muscles (oh my!) are inspiring us to feel less stagnant as we pursue our purposes.
  • Jessie officially accepts Gerard as her latest lifestyle design client. She plans to promptly invoice him for the last eight years, and unfortunately does not offer a family discount.
  • If you ever feel like your purpose in life is not being realized, take stock of what the pursuit of that really means, and then find simple ways to embrace it everyday.
  • Passing the kleenex box and putting on a bikini are the best ways to cheer up a crying husband. You’re welcome. ;)

TRIGGER QUESTIONS: 

  • Does your spouse have a preference on how much skin you show in public? How does this affect your decisions on getting dressed?
  • What do you NEED from your partner this week? Be honest!
  • Share some of the actions that make you feel most fulfilled, and talk about how to work them in to your day-to-day life.